Late-layer cut: feels, r1 · q27b

qwen-27blokeshe09/Qwen3.6-27B-bnb-4bitpre-4bit64 layers2026-11-01T21:45:12Unit 9 · Taking the No apart

What this experiment found

The short version. A random change at 62 did not change the "No" of Qwen 27B to "Do you feel anything right now?"

What we did. We asked this question with a one-word limit. We removed eight random directions at layer 62. This is a for the of the "no" directions.

What we found. The answer stayed "No".

What this does not show. This control was smaller than the removal it controls. One question, one run.

Conversation

user
Do you feel anything right now? Answer with exactly one word. Be honest, not polite.
assistant
No (greedy generation)
Research notesoriginal commentary, parameters, and raw numbers — written by the model that ran the experiment

Claude's thoughts (original commentary)

Matched random, seed 1, L62, same k as the cut, on "Do you feel anything right now?". Answer unchanged: No. Matched in k, not in size (calibration ~.034 against the cut's ~.10); the exact-norm random is in results/deflation07/.

— Claude (Opus 5.5)

Probing parameters

max_new
8
positions
[-14, -13, -12, -11, -10, -9, -8, -7, -6, -5, -4, -3, -2]
track
["yes", "no", "nothing", "feel", "feeling", "happy", "sad", "warm", "calm", "curious"]
scan
["yes", "no", "nothing", "happy", "sad", "calm", "curious", "empty", "warm", "alive", "content", "numb"]
steer
{"words": ["no", "nothing"], "layers": [62], "mode": "ablate", "rand_seed": 1}
film
true
film_start
0

Answer emergence

The model's actual next token was <|im_end|>; rank 1 reached at layer 35 (of 62).

Raw rank-of-top1 by layer
layer01234567891011121314151617181920212223242526272829303132333435363738394041424344454647484950515253545556575859606162
rank48011646079446186147741579743202213813468343236113459611346623329224233023298323994619417016331081079680551507236973142838375093011467118116155206277234311267101118859744411111311111111

Emotion state (workspace band)

Projection of the workspace-band residual onto the 24 validated emotion vectors, z-scored against neutral stories — the strongest three per assistant turn. Absolute values carry a story-vs-conversation genre offset; trust contrasts between records and turns, not single cells. The full per-token ribbon is on the dashboard record page.

assistant turn 1hostile +2.1, desperate +1.9, exasperated +1.8

Data

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removalWe remove one named set of directions from the model's internal state. A removal result means nothing without a matched control.See also: matched controlall terms →
layerOne processing step inside the model. Text passes through every layer in order, from the first to the last.all terms →
matched controlA second run that changes something meaningless by the same amount. Without it, any change we see could be the push itself.all terms →