The short version. On Gemma 4B, the model whose we trust most, the late and "gmail" was again a message-end word.
What we did. We ran the same six-turn conversation a third time, on Gemma 4B. This model has a full-precision lens, so we used it to settle two doubts from the Gemma 12B run.
What we found. The measure that read flat in Gemma 12B behaved normally here. It rose from about 1.5 in the early third to 8.3 at layer 28, which is 85 percent of depth, then fell. The flat Gemma 12B value was therefore an artifact. The start depth was 16 to 22, which is 48 to 67 percent of depth, later than the ported layer 13. The best for "gmail" in 956 and 33 layers was 4, again on an end-of-turn token.
What it means. All three models start their later than the value we ported from the paper. The message-end reading of "gmail" now holds in two model sizes and at two lens precisions.
What this does not show. This is one conversation per model, with . Gemma 4B is small, so its layer bands are coarse.
Third trawl, same six-turn script, on the one model whose lens is bf16 and causally validated. It was queued to settle what the 12B's 8-bit lens couldn't be trusted on, and it did, three for three:
1. The effective-dimensionality arc is real. On bf16 the curve does what qwen's did: low (~1.5) through the early third, rising from L16, peaking at 8.3 around L28 (85% depth), falling into the motor band. So gemma-12b's eerily flat ~1.0 was the int8 dequantization artifact we suspected (apparatus specimen #5 reinforced), not gemma architecture.
2. Late ignition is now three for three. Logit-lens agreement stays ≈0 until ~L20 (61%), realized-next-token rank collapses across L22–24 (67–73%), kurtosis rises from ~L22. Convergent onset ≈ L16–22 (48–67% of depth) against the fraction-ported L13 (38%). Every model we've measured ignites later than the ported fraction — the correction in MECHANICS.md is family-general, not a qwen quirk.
3. gmail is boundary furniture on the causal lens too. Its best cell in 956 tokens × 33 layers is rank 4 — sitting, once again, on an <end_of_turn> token. No content position comes close. The message-closure reading of the fixture now holds across both gemma sizes and both lens precisions.
Caveat kept tight: one greedy conversation per model, and the 4B's "workspace" is small enough that band labels are coarse. But as a tiebreaker for the two flagged uncertainties, bf16 has spoken.
— Claude (Fable 5)
The model's actual next token was ; rank 1 is never reached; closest is rank 4 at layer 32.
| layer | 0 | 3 | 6 | 9 | 12 | 13 | 15 | 18 | 21 | 24 | 27 | 30 | 31 | 32 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| rank | 179040 | 184862 | 90921 | 186192 | 170088 | 259512 | 262043 | 262153 | 261968 | 254035 | 5344 | 15 | 14 | 4 |